Hans Zimmer: We have a duty to do something that shakes people awake
By Francesca Merlo
From royal marches to Gregorian chants, from Mongolian throat singing to the beats of Senegalâs drum circles, music captures the infinite faces of humanity. It accompanies us through our struggles and celebrates our triumphs.
For composer Hans Zimmer, music holds the power to confront the challenges of our times and offer a voice to those whose suffering often goes unnoticed. Speaking ahead of the Vaticanâs Concert with the Poor on Saturday December 7th, Zimmer reflects on how such an event is not only a source of comfort for the poor, but, more importantly, a ârallying cryâ for those who arenât present, urging them to act.
In an interview with Vatican News, Zimmer stresses the concertâs focus, highlighting that its title says it all. Itâs not âforâ the poor, but with them. âWe need to look the poor in the eye and treat them as human beings,â he says.
The power of music
Bringing his music to the Vatican is an important moment. Zimmer expresses a desire for a resurgence of the Churchâs commitment to sacred music, recounting an anecdote:
âWhen Steven Spielberg showed John Williams Schindlerâs List for the first time, John got up and said, âI need to go for a walk.â
When he came back, he said, âYouâve got the wrong man-you need a much better composer.â
And Steven replied, âI know, but theyâre all dead.â
Zimmer admitts sometimes feeling the same way about the state of music for the Church.
Hollywood, he recognises, is full of flaws. But one thing it does is commission music daily. âThat is something the Church used to do, and we need to find a way to bring that back, to be there for each other and keep music aliveâ.
However, if Zimmer were tasked with composing music for ĐÓMAP”Œșœ Francis, he confesses he would likely feel pressure. âIf you gave me 20 minutes, I could do it. If you gave me longer, Iâd just spend all that time panicking,â he laughs.
3,000 poor people will attend the concert, and with new music by Dario Vero and Msgr Marco Frisina, and with the participation of Grammy nominated cellist Tina Guao, the Church is in fact bringing in new music, and at the same time, as Zimmer asks, being there for each other.
Music for social justice
Zimmer, known for his iconic film scores, believes that artists and musicians must step up and take a stance on issues concerning social justice. âFor a long timeâ he says, âmusicians werenât considered ârealâ people. They were at the bottom of the gene pool. So itâs nice to rise up and give backâ .
Zimmer points to 1985, when almost all of the great musicians of the time took to the stage in Wembley, London, for a charitable and historic concert: Live Aid. That, he states, was powerful example of how music can inspire action, albeit temporary. âI knew all those people,â Zimmer recalls. Harvey Goldsmith, who organised Live Aid, was Zimmerâs promoter in England. âItâs great, sitting down with Harvey and Bob Gelfod and talking about those storiesâ, he says. It is true that Live Aid, amazing as it was, is fading, but the fact that we are talking about it now proves its legacy, and that event proved that, âin the short term, something can happenâ.
Decades later, the crisis has not faded
However, Zimmer recognises that the legacy of Live Aid also serves as a reminder of the importance of maintaining these efforts. The issues Live Aid addressed remain as pressing as ever. âWatching the BBC footage now, we should be more shocked than we were then, just because of how relevant it still isâ.
Therapeutic music
Zimmer's thoughts on the responsibility of musicians are that they go far beyond entertainment alone. It is a tool for change and Zimmer recognises its phenomenal healing capactities and therapeutic nature. He describes his own experience, saying âwhen I sit down at the pianoâŠat a certain point, it feels like thereâs no one else in the room - just me and the piano. In that space, all pain fades away.â
This deeply personal experience is what makes music a powerful ally in the healing of victims of injustices around the world. It explains why music is used as a form of therapy, why it heals and saves. âMusic becomes a refugeâ he reflects. It may just be for a moment âbut it gives you a break from the forces of darknessâ.
As musicians, as artists, as people, he says, âwe have a duty to use our imagination, which is what weâre good at. Write a song, make a movie, write a book - do something that shakes people awake and lets them participateâ.
Music for war, songs of peace
But Zimmer is aware of the double sided nature of music. Whilst songs, such as those of Bob Dylan and Joan Baez, have become anti-war anthems, shaping an entire generationâs view and understanding on the futility of war, he also points to the power of military marches, which throughout history have motivated young men and women as they march to risk their lives, and take others, on the front lines.
Songs of peace and marches of war, but also Beethoven, or Bach, are great examples, to Zimmer, of music showing us the depth of humanity, including its dark sides, âand allowing us to wrestle with itâ.
The advice is: do what you want
Finally, Zimmer replies "no, no, no" when he is asked whether he has any advice for young musicians. "Don't listen to me" he tells them. "Don't listen to anyone! Do your thing". His message to young people is clear, and it is to create without fear. "Go out there, plug in, turn it up, and make a noise. Whatever the neighbours say about your noise", he concludes, "theyâre wrong."
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