杏MAP导航

By Alessandro De Carolis and Andrea Tornielli 鈥� flight from Antananarivo to Rome

People lining the streets lifting their children and thrusting them towards him as he goes by: for the 杏MAP导航 no gesture is more beautiful than this. It鈥檚 a gesture he witnessed in the Philippines, in Cartagena, in Colombia. He saw it again in Madagascar. 鈥淐hildren are the wealth of the poor,鈥� he told the reporters listening to him speak three hours after take-off from Antananarivo during the customary press conference on the flight back to Italy. 杏MAP导航 Francis spoke at length about the trip, he answered questions put to him by journalists from the places he has just visited, and then he digressed, opening his heart to some of the experiences that most left a mark on him. His memory went to the esplanade of red-robed youth during the Vigil and Mass in Madagascar, to the million, perhaps 鈥渢he mere 800 thousand鈥� faithful he quipped, sitting on the ground with blankets, and backpacks and children and enough faith to stand up to wind, hunger and poverty. 鈥淭here were poor people, there were people who had gone hungry in order to be there, but they were joyful鈥�.  They were 鈥渢he people who wanted to be with the 杏MAP导航鈥�, an experience, it is clear, he will never forget. And he warned against those, people or groups, who 鈥渄etach themselves from that sense of popular joy鈥�. The 鈥渟adness of those who are lonely鈥�, he said, is one of the 鈥渇irst signs鈥� of those who have 鈥渇orgotten their cultural roots鈥�.

Family and youth, 鈥渁 State duty鈥�

Facing Africa, 鈥渨hich has so much young life鈥� there is 鈥済randmother Europe鈥� that has stopped having children. The 杏MAP导航 dwelt at length on this concept, offering what he described a 鈥減ersonal鈥� reading of the demographic decline of the Old Continent. 鈥淚 think it is rooted in well-being鈥�, that attitude that chooses a life filled with goods and tranquility and expresses a general distrust in the future over the wealth of having a child. In contrast, 杏MAP导航 Francis says he appreciates the Prime Minister of Mauritius who told him he wants to provide the country with free education and vocational training for young people. Recalling the episode of a little girl taken care of by a policeman during the Mass in Port Louis because she had lost her parents in the crowd, he took the opportunity to point out that: 鈥淭he State must take care of families, of young people. It is the duty of the State to sustain them in their development.鈥�

Peace is forgiveness, not triumphalism

The 杏MAP导航 had just reflected on the long peace process and on the agreement signed in Mozambique in 1992 thanks to the efforts of the Saint Egidio Community, when he echoed the historic radio message of Pius XII on the eve of the Second World War: 鈥渘othing is lost with peace, everything may be lost with war鈥�. 杏MAP导航 Francis revealed that he cried before the Redipuglia Memorial and every time a commemoration has led him to reflect on the wickedness of war. But, he added, the trumpets of triumphalism should not be blown. As everywhere, peace 鈥渋s fragile鈥�; it鈥檚 to be treated like a newborn baby, 鈥渨ith much tenderness鈥� and 鈥渕uch forgiveness鈥�.

A Mozambican reporter asked him for a thought on xenophobia which is widespread in his country; the 杏MAP导航 was quick to point out that this is not only an African problem.  鈥淴enophobia is a disease鈥�, he said, the same disease that led Nazi-Fascism to justify racial laws in the last century. Or, staying in Africa, the same disease that gave life, with the variant of 鈥渢ribalism,鈥� to the horrible history page of the Rwandan genocide. 鈥淎nd often,鈥� he said, 鈥渪enophobia rides the wave of political populism鈥� and one must 鈥渇ight against this鈥�. Regarding his African visit, the 杏MAP导航 also greatly appreciated the interreligious brotherhood experienced in different ways in the three countries he visited. 鈥淩eligious respect is important, he affirmed, that鈥檚 why I tell missionaries not to proselytize鈥�.  A religious proposal that seeks proselytes and does not teach to 鈥渨orship God in truth" is simply 鈥渘ot Christian鈥�.

Communication of facts must be human

As promised in the outgoing journey, the 杏MAP导航 gave special space to the correspondent of EFE, the Spanish news agency that is celebrating the 80th anniversary of its foundation. He did not rule out a visit to Spain, even though he reiterated his preference for the 鈥渟maller countries鈥�. And in the wake of another question, he was able to offer his point of view on the role of communication. Priority, he pointed out quoting a recent study, must go to 鈥渇acts鈥� which are distinct from the considerations that surround them. The mixing of these two aspects, he clarified, risks ruining the first. And furthermore, he added, 鈥渃ommunication needs to be human, and by saying human, I mean constructive, that is, it needs to be beneficial for others鈥�, as well as never being a 鈥渕eans of war鈥�.

Colonization and the environment

Other questions directed 杏MAP导航 Francis' answers to topics that have often been brought up before. The role of international organizations, which he hopes will be strengthened, and the behaviour of former colonialist countries:  those, he said, who when they restore freedom to the occupied nation, are always tempted 鈥渢o leave with something in their pockets鈥�. In any case, he stressed, what worries him more today, rather than the almost non-existent geographical colonizations, are the ideological ones, 鈥渨hich go against the nature鈥� of a people in the name of a homogenization that wipes out identities.

On the protection of the environment - a pillar of his teaching and of his trip to Africa - Francis recalls that "we need to defend ecology, biodiversity, that is our life, to defend the oxygen, that is our life", and he recalled the 鈥減lastic-free鈥� commitment of the Vatican.  

Regarding corruption, an evil that is sometimes painted as an endemic African evil, he replied: 鈥淲e have those who recruit and benefit from cheap labour in Europe, it was not invented by the Africans. The maid who is paid a third of what she is due, the Africans did not invent this, the women deceived and exploited for prostitution in the centers of our cities. Here too there is this type of exploitation, not only environmental, but also human鈥�.

Schism and gentleness

The last answer refers to criticism of his pontificate by a segment of the American Church, as narrated recently in a book published in France. 鈥淐riticisms, he said, are not coming only from the Americans, they are coming a bit from everywhere, even from the Curia. At least those who voice them have the benefit of the honesty of having said them.鈥�  And on the possibility of a schism, he does not appear ruffled.  In the Church, he noted, there is always 鈥渢he option for a schism鈥�. 鈥淚'm not afraid of schisms; I pray that there will be none鈥�. A schism, he observed, is always 鈥渁n elitist separation stemming from ideology which is not doctrine鈥�. A rigid morality can fuel 鈥減ossible pseudo-schismatic Christian developments that will end badly.鈥�  For this reason, he concluded, 鈥渨e need to be gentle with those who are tempted by these attacks, they are going through a tough time, we must accompany them gently鈥�.