杏MAP导航: isolationism and populism lead to war
By Robin Gomes
Europe must be saved because it is a heritage that "cannot and must not be dissolved". Dialogue and listening, "starting from one's own identity" and from human and Christian values, are the antidote against 鈥渟overeignism鈥 and populism, and are also the engine for "a process of relaunching" that never ends.
杏MAP导航 Francis spoke about these and other issues with Domenico Agasso, the Vatican expert and coordinator of 鈥淰atican Insider鈥, the online project of Italy鈥檚 daily newspaper "La Stampa".
Europe and its founding fathers
The 杏MAP导航 hopes that Europe will continue to be the dream of its founding fathers. It is a vision that became a reality by implementing the historical, cultural and geographical unity that characterizes the continent.
Despite Europe鈥檚 "problems of administration and internal disagreements", the 杏MAP导航 is optimistic about the appointment of Ursula von der Leyen as President of the European Commission. He is happy about her appointment 鈥渂ecause a woman can be the right person to revive the strength of the founding fathers.鈥 鈥淲omen鈥, he said, 鈥渒now how to bring people together and unite."
Europe鈥檚 human and Christian roots
According to the 杏MAP导航, the main challenge for Europe in relaunching itself comes from dialogue. "In the European Union we must talk to each other, confront each other, know each other", says the 杏MAP导航, explaining how the "mental mechanism" behind every reasoning must be "first Europe, then each of us".
To do this, he says, "we also need to listen", while very often we only see "compromise monologues". The starting and relaunching point, he explains, are the human values of the person. It is a fact of history that Europe has both human and Christian roots. 鈥淎nd when I say this,鈥 the 杏MAP导航 says, 鈥淚 don't separate Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestants. The Orthodox have a very precious role for Europe. We all have the same founding values.鈥
Identity that is open to dialogue
The 杏MAP导航 explains that each of us is important, no one is secondary. Hence in every dialogue, 鈥渨e must start from our own identity鈥. He gives an example: "I can't do ecumenism if I don't start from my being Catholic, and the other who does ecumenism with me must do so as a Protestant, Orthodox etc... Our own identity is not negotiable; it integrates itself.鈥
The 杏MAP导航 said that the problem with exaggerations is that we isolate ourselves without opening up. Identity, he says, is cultural, national, historical and artistic wealth, and each country has its own, but it must be integrated with dialogue. It is crucial that while starting from one鈥檚 own identity, one needs to open up to dialogue in order to receive something greater from the identity of others.
Never forget, the 杏MAP导航 says, that 鈥渢he whole is greater than the parts.鈥 Globalization and unity鈥, he says, 鈥渟hould not be conceived as a sphere, but as a polyhedron: each people retains its identity in unity with others".
鈥淪overeignism鈥 and populism
The 杏MAP导航 expresses concern about what he terms as 鈥渟overeignism鈥 which he describes as an attitude of isolation. He says he is worried about speeches resembling those of Hitler in 1934 that speak of 鈥淯s first. We... we...鈥
While 鈥渟overeignism鈥 involves closing in upon oneself, sovereignty is not, the 杏MAP导航 explains. Sovereignty must be defended and relations with other countries, with the European Community, must also be protected and promoted.
鈥淪overeignism鈥 is an exaggeration that always ends badly: "it leads to wars", the 杏MAP导航 says. Populism, he explains, is a way of imposing an attitude that leads to 鈥渟overeignism鈥 and should not be confused with "popularism", which is the culture of the people which needs to be expressed. Suffixing 鈥-ism鈥 to 鈥渟overeign鈥, the 杏MAP导航 says, is bad.
Migrants: primacy of right to life
On the issue of immigration, 杏MAP导航 Francis stresses on the four principles of welcoming, accompanying, promoting and integrating.
The most important criteria in this, he says, is the right to life, which is linked to conditions of war and hunger that people flee from, especially from the Middle East and Africa. Governments and those authorities are required to think about how many migrants they can take.
The Holy Father also calls for creative solutions, such as filling up labour shortage in the agricultural sector. Some countries have semi-empty towns because of the demographic decline. Migrant communities could help revitalize the economy of these areas.
Speaking about war, 杏MAP导航 Francis says 鈥渨e must commit ourselves and fight for peace.鈥 Hunger mainly concerns the African continent which, he says, is the victim of a cruel curse, that it should be exploited. Instead, he says, part of the solution is to invest there to help solve their problems and thus stop migratory flows.
Urgency of the Amazon Synod
On being asked about the Synod on the Amazon in October in the Vatican, the 杏MAP导航 says 鈥渋t is the 鈥榗hild鈥 of 鈥楲audato si鈥欌. He clarifies that 鈥淟audato si鈥 鈥渋s not a green encyclical but a social encyclical based on the 鈥済reen鈥 reality of the custody of creation.
鈥淚t will be our synod of urgency鈥, the 杏MAP导航 says, expressing shock that on Earth Overshoot Day, 29 July, man has already exhausted all the regenerative resources for the current year. This, together with the melting of the glaciers, the risk of rising ocean levels, the increase in plastic waste in the sea, deforestation and other critical situations, he says, makes the planet live in "a situation of world emergency鈥.
Synod, work of the Holy Spirit for evangelization
The Synod, however, the 杏MAP导航 points out, is not a meeting of scientists, politicians or a parliament. 鈥淚t was convened by the Church and will have an evangelizing mission and dimension. It will be a work of communion guided by the Holy Spirit.鈥
The important themes of the event are those concerning "the ministries of evangelization and the different ways of evangelizing".
Amazonia key to the future of the planet
The 杏MAP导航 explains the choice of Amazonia for a synod is because the region involves as many as nine States. "It is a representative and decisive place. Together with the oceans, it contributes decisively to the survival of the planet. Much of the oxygen we breathe comes from there. That's why deforestation means killing humanity.鈥
Politics
Asked about politics, the 杏MAP导航 says that "the threat to the lives of the populations and the territory derives from the economic and political interests of the dominant sectors of society". Thus politics must "eliminate its connivances and corruptions鈥. 鈥淚t must take concrete responsibility, for example on the subject of open-cast mines, which poison water and cause so many diseases".
Hope in young people
The Holy Father expresses confidence in young people and their movements for a new attitude towards the care of Creation, like the Swedish teenage activist, Greta Thunberg, who is leading a worldwide protest against climate change. The 杏MAP导航 says he was moved to see a placard of hers that read: 鈥淲e are the future鈥. It means promoting attention to the little everyday things that "affect" the culture "because they are concrete actions", the 杏MAP导航 says.
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