杏MAP导航

Stanislas Kambashi, SJ 鈥� Vatican City. 

Arriving in Rome a day after the death of 杏MAP导航 Francis, Cardinal Ambongo described the intense period that the universal Church has just experienced as comprising three phases: the death and funeral of the late Sovereign Pontiff, the nine days of mourning and the General Congregations (meetings) held by the Cardinals, and the Conclave that elected 杏MAP导航 Leo XIV. 

At the end of these intense 鈥渢hree phases,鈥� the Congolese Archbishop shared his thoughts on the new 杏MAP导航 with Vatican News, particularly urging the faithful to 鈥減ray for the successor of Peter so that the Lord gives him light, grace, and inner strength to carry out his mission, which is essentially to confirm all the faithful in the faith,鈥� and to manifest God鈥檚 mercy to all humanity. 

Your Eminence Fridolin Cardinal Ambongo, you just experienced very intense moments: the General Congregations, then the Conclave. How did you live through these times? 

I would rather speak of three very important moments since my arrival here. The first was the funeral of 杏MAP导航 Francis, which we experienced with great emotion鈥攖his great 杏MAP导航 who visited us in the Congo. We cherish all those memories of him. The second was what is called the pre-Conclave, with the General Congregations, which lasted more than a week鈥擨 would say ten days. And the third was the Conclave itself. Each moment was experienced in a particular way. The funeral of 杏MAP导航 Francis was celebrated in sorrow and sadness. The second moment, the pre-Conclave, characterized by the Congregations鈥攇atherings of all Cardinals, electors and non-electors鈥攚as a time of reflection, analysis, and critical examination of the reality of our Church, how far we have come, and projections for the future. All of this provided material that helped us define the profile of the person we wanted on Peter鈥檚 Chair to help lead the Church. The General Congregations, which prepare us immediately for the Conclave, made it possible that, when we entered the Conclave鈥攚hich I consider the third moment of my stay here鈥攖hings went relatively smoothly because we were prepared. 

From the profile of the future 杏MAP导航 that you and the Cardinals sketched during the General Congregations: you especially wanted a universal Shepherd close to the people. And the Sovereign Pontiff you elected fits this profile, being a missionary. What are your first impressions after the election of the new 杏MAP导航? 

The overall impression, as you saw when the Cardinals came out, is one of joy鈥攅veryone was satisfied with the choice of 杏MAP导航 Leo XIV. Because before God鈥攁nd that鈥檚 why we took our oath and acted in conscience鈥攚e reached an inner conviction that he was the one among us who best matched the profile we had defined. And you saw, in less than 24 hours, Cardinals from different parts of the world elected a 杏MAP导航. That fact, I believe, must be acknowledged. 133 cardinals from four corners of the world, who did not know each other well鈥攕ince I have been a Cardinal for about five years, we鈥檝e only had the College of Cardinals meet once before, to discuss the document Praedicate Evangelium. But all those appointed after us we didn鈥檛 know. Imagine that, in two weeks, we managed to fraternise, get to know each other, and exchange ideas and notes. Through these exchanges, we reached a consensus on the profile of the Cardinal who best fits the current priorities of the Church amidst its great challenges. The Holy Spirit was with us. 

Does this also reflect a certain unity within the College of Cardinals, which should also be mirrored throughout the Church? 

In fact, there is a gap between what is said in the media and reality. The press often claims that the Church is divided鈥攂etween conservatives and progressives. These categories do not exist among the Cardinals themselves. The proof of this is what we just experienced. Cardinals, representing the entire universal Church, demonstrated a much deeper understanding of the true nature of the Church. The Church is not an ideology, as the media sometimes portrays it, but rather attachment to a person. And that person is Jesus Christ. The fundamental question He posed to Simon Peter was: 鈥淒o you love me?鈥� Do you love me? It鈥檚 about loving this man, and all men and women around the world who love Jesus recognise themselves as brothers and sisters. Our common point is this love for Jesus. And these are not ideologies, as some try to say, but genuine love鈥攍ove that transforms our nature from within and sets us on the right path. 

Today, we live in a world torn apart by wars and nationalism. Do you also have hope that the elected 杏MAP导航 is the person who can better continue the fight for peace, or continue the battle against increasingly dividing nationalisms? 

杏MAP导航 Francis said very clearly that our world today is characterised by what he called a 鈥渢hird world war鈥攆ought in small pieces.鈥� That is the reality of our world. There are conflicts and tensions everywhere. The College of Cardinals aimed to elect a new 杏MAP导航 who would continue along the lines of 杏MAP导航 Francis鈥攔eminding humanity that we are all brothers: 鈥淔ratelli Tutti,鈥� as he wrote鈥攁nd that it is pointless to spend most of our time quarrelling, fighting, and killing each other when we are all brothers and sisters. We believe that the newly elected 杏MAP导航, Leo XIV, is aligned with this vision. You heard his first words upon being elected were about peace, emphasising the need for everyone to commit to peace. Peace is not a natural state; we must work to build it. It does not simply fall from the sky. It requires our engagement, will, and a good inner disposition to wish others well. And I believe the new 杏MAP导航 will help us in this regard. I say this especially because of his background鈥攈e is a person who embodies what could be called the whole world. His grandparents come from France and Italy, and he himself is American, having lived many years in Peru. He was the Prior General of his religious congregation, the Order of Saint Augustine. As Prior General, he travelled around the world, visiting Africa鈥攊ncluding the Congo. There are still beautiful images circulating on social media of him visiting us, and all this makes him what we can now call a 鈥渃itizen of the world.鈥� I think this gives him a real advantage in viewing the conflicts of today鈥檚 world with some perspective and in finding the appropriate language to reach out to the belligerents and exhort them to reconcile. 

You pointed out that Leo XIV is a cosmopolitan figure, as some might say. A Roman pontiff鈥檚 name can sometimes already hint at the direction of his pontificate. Leo XIV also references his predecessor, Leo XIII, who wrote the encyclical Rerum Novarum, the social encyclical. How do you think this pontificate might be oriented based on this name Leo XIV? 

The best explanation comes from the 杏MAP导航 himself. I believe that by choosing this name, he first references 杏MAP导航 Leo XIII, who was the first pope to write a social encyclical, Rerum Novarum. This encyclical specifically addresses social issues. In his first words on Thursday, the new 杏MAP导航 began by talking about peace. Like the risen Jesus after His Resurrection, the first words He addressed to His disciples after their betrayal were: 鈥淧eace be with you.鈥� 

Since the announcement of the election of 杏MAP导航 Leo XIV, many reactions have expressed the joy of the people of God. 

Your Eminence, you are president of SCEAM, the Symposium of Episcopal Conferences of Africa and Madagascar. What can Africa, as a continent, hope for from this new papacy of 杏MAP导航 Leo XIV? 

Africa today faces many problems, including widespread poverty. Looking at the continent鈥檚 reality, only a few countries are doing relatively well. But overall, many African countries are in difficulty. The root of these challenges lies in the issue of living together, which is problematic鈥攏ot only among Africans themselves but also with external powers that come into our countries. 杏MAP导航 Francis, with the process of synodality, has already indicated the way forward. Most of our conflicts in Africa鈥攕uch as the ongoing wars in Sudan, South Sudan, eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo, and tensions with Rwanda, as well as the roles of Uganda and Burundi鈥攃reate confusion and suffering among the population. But by returning to the very concept of synodality, we can see each other differently, work together differently, hold hands, and move forward as one. 

I believe that for Africa, it would be very important for the new 杏MAP导航 to advance the process of synodality, which could be a real springboard for resolving many of our conflicts. That鈥檚 one point. I also see that 杏MAP导航 Leo XIV is a man very sensitive to financial issues. At the Vatican, he is involved in many commissions that deal with the Holy See鈥檚 finances. 杏MAP导航 Francis, when he began reforming the Curia鈥攚hich he viewed as a mandate received from the last Conclave鈥攕tarted with financial reforms at the Holy See. This means that, in a diocese, religious congregation, or parish, if we do not take the matter of material management and the economic-financial dimension of our ministry seriously, we risk facing difficulties tomorrow. Even Jesus Christ, though the Son of God, had an economic base for the group of Apostles, and it worked well. The treasury was entrusted to a good steward who carefully followed expenses鈥擩udas. So, in our dioceses, we also need this. Our hope is that the new 杏MAP导航, building on the reforms undertaken here at the Vatican, will also encourage us in our dioceses and urge religious congregations to put their financial management in order. Because we will never be credible if we are not transparent and honest in our economic and financial management. 

Thank you, Your Eminence. What is your closing word? Would you like to add something regarding the election of Leo XIV, the new 杏MAP导航, and the reception of this news in Africa and especially in your country, the Democratic Republic of the Congo? 

There is an interesting anecdote: after the Conclave, among the messages I received, I saw on social media how some people commented on the election of the new 杏MAP导航. There is a tendency to apply the logic of the 20th century to the process of electing the successor of Peter. Some said that Cardinal Ambongo is among the candidates and was ranked among the top ten. That鈥檚 not how it works. There are no candidates. Any Cardinal can be elected. Any priest can be elected. So, when I see these reactions, I feel a bit sad鈥攕ome even comment that they are disappointed because it鈥檚 not what they had hoped for. Humanly speaking, I understand, but I believe we must rise above these purely human considerations. The choice of the successor of Peter is primarily made by the Holy Spirit itself and by the Cardinals gathered in Conclave. No one considers continent, group membership, or skin colour. Instead, we focus on the gravity of the mission and our duty as Cardinals to find the person truly suited to the challenges. Therefore, I simply ask everyone to warmly welcome 杏MAP导航 Leo XIV, just as we have always welcomed other 杏MAP导航s鈥攚ith sincere, enthusiastic, and open-hearted acceptance of the new 杏MAP导航, who already knows our reality in Africa.

Pray for him because the mission is not easy. Governing the Catholic Church is not like being the head of a single territory. The universal Shepherd, the successor of Peter, must constantly manoeuvre to meet the expectations of more than a billion Catholics worldwide, each with their own traditions, tastes, and differences. Achieving balance is not an easy task. That鈥檚 why I ask my African brothers and sisters to pray for the successor of Peter, so that the Lord gives him light, grace, and inner strength to continue his work鈥攑rimarily to confirm all the faithful in the faith. The 杏MAP导航 is here to confirm the faithful, but also to manifest God鈥檚 mercy to all humanity鈥攏ot just Catholics, but all of humanity.